"George said a nice thing: 'What should have happened is that the Bonzos and The Beatles and The Pythons and The Rutles should have got together and had a lot of fun.'"
 

 

 

From Rutlemania.org: In 1994, the American Cinemateque and the British Academy of Film and Television Arts teamed up in Los Angeles to do a 25th Anniversary retrospective of Monty Python's Flying Circus (The retrospective was called "Monty Python: Lust For Glory"). The program covered the group, both pre- and post-Python. Several members of the group participated in discussions during the fest. Python regulars Carol Cleveland and Neil Innes were on hand as well. All You Need Is Cash was screened as part of the program looking at Eric Idle's work after Python.

 


Photo from KHJ's "The First 280 years of
Monty Python" used with permission
 

As part of the activities surrounding "Monty Python: Lust For Glory," a concert performance by Ron Nasty and The New Rutles was announced at The Troubador, the legendary club in West Hollywood, California. The seeds for the concert had been planted at the Chicago Beatlefest in August of that year. Neil Innes was a guest at that gathering of Beatles fans, and his solo performances of Rutles tunes were enthusiastically received. Martin Lewis was at that Beatlefest as an emcee, and noticed the reception given Innes. As one of the organizers and hosts of the "Monty Python: Lust For Glory" festival, he arranged the Ron Nasty and the New Rutles show as one of the adjunct activities. The concert, set for September 8, sold out so fast that a second show was quickly arranged for the following Saturday, September 10. That show also quickly sold out.

"I can't remember much about what I did for that. I was doing the Troubadour, actually. I know the two Terrys were there. What did we do? I don't remember. I think we hung out in the Sunset Marquis. Did we do anything? I don't know. I remember having a couple of dinners. Did we have to watch anything? I don't know."

The concert was a stunningly good time. Neil Innes was the well-received opening act, playing audience favorites. But the greatest enthusiasm was reserved for the breathlessly-awaited appearance of Ron Nasty and the New Rutles.

Applause and cheers shook the house as Ron Nasty and the New Rutles (actually a very good Beatles sound-alike group called The Moptops) took the stage. Backed by the Rutland Symphony Orchestra, they launched into spirited renditions of most of the Rutles classics that the audience knew and loved.

The response to this undertaking so took Innes by surprise that he began to think seriously of recording new Rutles music, 20 years after The Rutles made their first appearance. (used with permission)

Neil & Eric Idle hang out
Photo from the collection of John Altman

Joe Stefanelli was and is "the John" for The Moptops, the Beatle tribute band who for two nights were "The New Rutles" with Neil Innes. Since that time, The Moptops have gone from playing all over L.A. to playing all over the world. Joe was also the voice of John Lennon in Forrest Gump! Having just returned to L.A. from a Moptop tour of Taiwan, he told us all about the experience of being a "New Rutle" for a weekend. And as if that weren't enough, John Altman sent us all these pictures from the concert... thank you John! And thank you Joe and John for helping us flesh out this little bit of music history!

At the time, we were the big Beatles tribute group. We were the up 'n' comers in the city. We caught the interest a long time before of Martin Lewis, who would bring us in to do work and do stuff with him. All of a sudden, we were asked to do these Rutle songs. At the time I really didn't know the Rutles that well. I remembered it was a Monty Python thing. I had to rent the movie and go watch it. I said, "Which one are we working with?" And he says we're working with Ron Nasty. That's Neil Innes. He's going to front the band, and he's going to be Ron Nasty and the New Rutles. And then the joke is obvious you have guys up there that look just like the Beatles. So I remember learning these songs in the studio, and we had this appointment to meet Neil when he came in. So we're in there and we haven't met Neil yet, and we all just watched the movie, and we're expecting this guy that looks like that. And here comes Neil, looking as he does in a Hawaiian shirt and a straw large brimmed hat. And my drummer and I were like, "That's him?" He came in and jeez, we got on like a house on fire and had a ball. The songs are really good. We were trying to pick out the different songs of the Beatles. There are some of them that had two or three different songs in one song. But we noticed that they were songs that stood on their own. They're very good songs.

Two nights before the gig we went to this big party at the British Consulate. And then we met Eric Idle. At the time I think they were in a bit of a spat. I think Eric didn't want us doing the concert or something, because he wasn't very nice to us. The rest of the Pythons were there, but I don't think John Cleese was there. But I met Sid Cesar, Jeff Lynne was there. We met all these people, and people loved us!

When we arrived at the Troubadour, they were lined around the block going all the way up Doheny. And I'm talking four deep! It went over so well that they had to add a second show because there were people around the block trying to get into the Troubadour. People were turned away. And who was in the audience that night, it was incredible! Julian Lennon was in the audience. The guys from Spinal Tap were there. The Rolling Stones were reportedly going to show up but I think they had a gig that night. I

Greg Phillinganes does
Ed Sullivan

mean, there was a ton of people. We got to do a set of our own as the Beatles right after the show. Then Neil came up and joined us in the band, and then Greg Phillinganes stayed up and he did his little characters like Billy Preston. Greg Phillinganes played with us. And we did USSR, he came and sat in. It was really a cool evening. It was really great. I remember to this day, I got home after and sat on the couch and I thought to myself, "What the hell happened? What was this?" I had no idea the popularity of that Rutle movie was so extensive. Then they decided to add that second show and believe me, it was last minute. I got a call early the next morning, they wanted to do another show, can we do it? It was very much like that.

John Altman conducts The
Rutland Symphony Orchestra

We had to play with an orchestra. They were players from the Hollywood Bowl symphony orchestra. They added a second show but they couldn't contract the Hollywood Bowl people because they didn't have the time to do it or they were committed or something. What ended up happening is, they had to simulate it or do a keyboard. Because they only came in on Doubleback Alley and all those ones. They came in for that stuff, and that was what they were there for. So we figured we could get away with it.

Neil did his little Bonzo Dog thing. Some of his songs in the center. I think he was surprised. I think he was.

The big disappointment of that whole thing is that we were scheduled to go on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno. Neil and the New Rutles were scheduled, and we were supposed to go down there when they film the show at 6:00. Like 4:00 in the afternoon we get the phone call: well there's some scheduling mix up and we got dropped. And we had called everybody saying, "We're going to be on the Tonight Show!" We had to call everybody back. I learned valuable lesson; until you're in the green room, you're not even safe!


Neil, Joe, Greg Phillinganes and Tim McDougall

Neil is a very nice guy. He's a really beautiful guy. He always treated us with a lot of respect and he always remembered me, which I always appreciated. I've called him at home a couple of times over the years since to get his advice and to see if he'd be interested in some other projects, and he always talked to me and always communicated to me and gave me advice.

This thing I think wasn't expected to be as big as it was. We were being shuffled around all week long in limos. It was a big deal. It was a lot bigger deal than we thought it was going to be. We had no idea how big the shows were going to be."

See the Moptops in "A Hard Day's Day" - a day in the life of a Beatles tribute band at http://www.aharddaysday.com/

 

Courtesy whomever made the Troubadour show bootleg

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I Must Be In Love
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With A Girl Like You
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Lets Be Natural
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Piggy In The Middle
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Cheese & Onions
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Love Life
3.4 MB

 

Neil Innes, Eric Idle, Ricky Fataar
John Altman & Gary Weis
at the Director's Guild screening
of "All You Need Is Cash"

Hollywood, March 2001

John Altman, Neil, Eric Idle, Ricky Fataar
Photo from the collection of John Altman

John Altman, Neil, Eric Idle
Photo from the collection of John Altman


Neil, Gary Weis & Eric Idle

 

 

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